2022年6月1日 星期三

Dave Lee: 這對特斯拉來說是非常樂觀的。(第 604 集)

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hi it's dave so elon musk made some

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comments on twitter this past week that

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i think are super bullish for tesla

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however i think they got lost in the

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noise by most people so let's take a

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look and reflect on some of these

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comments here so elon replied to a two

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by jack dorsey and elon says 2020 feels

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like a pivotal year i'd be surprised if

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we don't have agi by then hopefully

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people on mars too so i want to focus on

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this comment here um before actually um

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on march 14th a few months ago

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someone asked what's your guess um on

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when people will land on mars and elon

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says 2029. so we know elon has a goal of

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sending people to mars in 2029 but this

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is the first time from this tweet that

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we know that elon thinks that actually

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ati or artificial general intelligence

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will be here by 2029. so he says i'd be

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surprised if we don't have agi or

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artificial general intelligence by 2029

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all right so agi what is it artificial

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general intelligence according to

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wikipedia is the ability of an

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intelligent agent to understand or learn

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any intellectual task that a human being

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can now there's varying different views

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on what agi is if it is even possible

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exactly what it means and by when it

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will come i wrote last year in may i

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said we're on the cusp of something big

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really big namely the emergence of ai

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powered robots that will be able to do

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most of what humans do but better this

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is both exciting and concerning all

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right so 2029 this year is much sooner

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than most everyone projects regarding

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the advent of artificial general

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intelligence and i think it's probably

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because elon is seeing a lot of progress

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in artificial intelligence that's

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happening sooner and faster and as

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evidenced by the progress we're seeing

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in fsd beta and also with tesla's just

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ai team in general all right so one of

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the questions of debate is whether hgi

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artificial general intelligence will be

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physical kind of robot form or will it

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be just virtual right so non-physical

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most ai research and development is

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happening actually in virtual

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environments this is software internet

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computers however tesla is a unique

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company in sciences they're pushing

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physical ai right and they are becoming

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one of the leaders if not the defective

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leader in physical ai meaning combining

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hardware and software together their

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first physical ai product is basically

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robot cars or cars that dry themselves

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this is still in development their

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second physical ai product is the

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humanoid ai robot that eventually can do

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almost everything that a human can do

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all right so this humanoid ai robot is a

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product i think that practically has no

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limits see once a humanoid ai robot the

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intelligence of that robot reaches that

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of a human and passes that then it can

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only and will only increase rapidly

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right in the future and the question is

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what will humanoid ai robots not be

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capable of at a certain point they can

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mine right minerals themselves they can

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build their own factories they could

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repair their own bodies they can make

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new forms right and better robots in the

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future it kind of is mind-boggling in a

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sense it is all concerning in many i

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think rightful ways but also promising

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if it's in the right hands and if it's

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used for good alright so another big

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question mark is timing when will tesla

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be able to make a truly usable humanoid

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ai robot so when is this all starting

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and how fast can tesla improve their

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humanoid robot to the point right that

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you can actually become as smart as a

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human and this is why elon's 2029 agi

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comment is really significant because

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it's showing that elon is seeing rapid

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progress with artificial intelligence

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also with robotics and it's showing that

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actually elon is super bullish about

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tesla's prospects and actually not just

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solving ai but actually with tesla's

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humanoid robot i think there's a

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divergence of beliefs that we're going

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to see more clearly in coming years most

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people won't believe the rapid progress

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and development of tesla's humanoid

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robot it just is too mind-boggling for

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most people i think this divergence of

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beliefs meaning there'll be more people

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who actually think it's coming and

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there'll be more people who thinks it's

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just 50 100 years or it's never going to

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come and i think this divergence of

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belief is actually presents some

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opportunity all right so overall i think

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robots are developing fast i want to

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give an example here of agility robotics

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they're based in

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oregon and they've got a robot called

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digit so here is their homepage here and

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digit is a work robot and they're still

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kind of developing it and they're going

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to release supposedly their first

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version this year here's the team at

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agility robotics right you've got

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probably a

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few to several dozen people so it's not

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a huge company but they're doing

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actually some really interesting stuff

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so here is kind of the version or what

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they have of this digit a work robot you

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see that pedaling

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walking waving his hands it's got a

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quite lean body

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yeah and they've got actually very

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ambitious uh plans for this robot so

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they want to

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for initial tasks they want to move

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totes and packages right so this is

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basically

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a robot that work in factories they want

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to unload trailers right this would be a

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huge i think use case for robots um

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there's a ton of cargo right at docks

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not just docks but

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warehouses etc

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but not just unloading trailers but you

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could actually do last mile delivery so

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you basically take the boxes right from

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a car a van and actually walk the boxes

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up to a person's house lay it down

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and it presents a really super

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fascinating kind of um yeah initial task

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or use cases for a humanoid robot right

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so according to agility robotics their

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kind of model or their robot actually is

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about five feet two inches um and it's

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very similar actually in kind of

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dimensions to tesla's humanoid robot and

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it's very interesting um weight 45

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kilograms max speed 1.5 meter per second

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you have a light duty run time of three

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hours and a heavy duty run time of 1.5

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hours also in terms of walking or

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mobility you can go forward backwards

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side by side turn in place crouching

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walk up and down inclines across

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unstructured territory uh terrain like

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grass rocks and curbs other capabilities

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are it pauses when perceives a person or

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barrier in its path and navigates around

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it can crouch and squat it rotates upper

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body to gaze and look in different

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directions it uses arms and hands and

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feet to balance when bumped now this is

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pretty cool ability to pick up and put

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down objects of varying size of and

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weight steps up and down from curbs so

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agility robotics they've raised 150

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million dollars just um last month april

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22nd

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and they raised it from dc vc and

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playground global also amazon industrial

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innovation fund joined in as an investor

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here's a video of their digit work robot

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in action um it's quite interesting

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yeah so you see that we're moving boxes

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kind of in a warehouse

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loading boxes onto right a trailer

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taking out products

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from bins

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placing the bins in a different place

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loading up a truck here

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actually taking up taking boxes

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and

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um yeah quite impressive stuff actually

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by agility robotics here

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all right so i think there are some huge

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ramifications of what's going on here

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tesla is recruiting the world's best

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robotic experts and they've got their

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choice of the cream of the crop tesla

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already has one of the best ai teams out

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there and i think we're going to see

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progress far faster than any other

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robotic teams in the world right now

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second we're probably seeing the

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development of the greatest product in

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human history yes it has a lot of

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dangers and risks so hopefully they'll

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be the right regulation it'll be the

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right companies that are that will

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steward this technology to actually help

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people not to harm write the greater

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good third when you ever accompany or

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people create great value right through

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innovation technology there's going to

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be a realization of some of that value

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if not a lot of that value via revenue

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and profits and through market cap right

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and through stock price so i think this

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becomes a backdrop of tesla stock for

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the next decade and many decades to come

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and again what's interesting is elon

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says his expectations 2029 for hei

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personally i think that's way early i

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think this can take longer than that but

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hey i take it as a sign of confidence

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and a sign of optimism that things are

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going very well with the development of

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tesla ai fsd beta and also

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tesla's humanoid robot all right hope

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嗨,戴夫,伊隆馬斯克做了一些

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上週在推特上的評論

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我認為對特斯拉超級看好

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但是我認為他們迷路了

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大多數人的噪音,所以讓我們來看看

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看看並反思其中的一些

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這裡的評論所以埃隆回復了兩個

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傑克·多爾西和埃隆說 2020 年的感覺

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如果是關鍵的一年,我會感到驚訝

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希望到那時我們還沒有 agi

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火星上的人也一樣,所以我想專注於

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這個評論在這裡嗯實際上之前

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幾個月前的 3 14

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有人問你猜怎麼著

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當人們登陸火星和埃隆時

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2029。所以我們知道埃隆的目標是

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2029 年將人送上火星,但這

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這是這條推文中的第一次

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我們知道埃隆實際上認為

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ati 或通用人工智能

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2029 年會在這裡。所以他說我會

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如果我們沒有敏捷或

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2029 年的通用人工智能

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好吧,所以 agi 是什麼人造的

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一般智力根據

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維基百科是一個能力

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智能代理理解或學習

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人類的任何智力任務

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現在可以有不同的看法

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如果可能的話,關於 agi 是什麼

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究竟是什麼意思,什麼時候

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會來我去年五月寫的

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說我們正處於大事的風口浪尖

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真的很大就是ai的出現

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能夠做的動力機器人

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人類所做的大部分事情,但更好的是這個

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既令人興奮又關乎所有人

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對,所以今年 2029 年要快得多

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比大多數人的項目

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人工將軍的出現

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情報,我認為這可能是

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因為埃隆看到了很多進步

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在人工智能中

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越來越快地發生

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我們所看到的進展證明了這一點

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fsd beta tesla

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ai團隊一般都還好所以之一

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爭論的問題是hgi是否

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通用人工智能將成為

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物理類型的機器人形式或將它

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只是虛擬的,所以非物理的

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大多數人工智能研發是

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實際發生在虛擬

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環境 這是軟件互聯網

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電腦,但特斯拉是獨一無二的

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他們正在推動的科學公司

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身體健康,他們正在成為

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如果不是有缺陷的領導者之一

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物理人工智能的領導者意味著結合

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硬件和軟件在一起

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第一款實體ai產品基本上是

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機器人汽車或自動干燥的汽車

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這仍在開發中

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第二個物理人工智能產品是

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最終能做到的人形人工智能機器人

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人類能做的幾乎所有事情

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好的,所以這個人形人工智能機器人是

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我認為幾乎沒有的產品

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極限見一次人形人工智能機器人

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那個機器人的智能達到了

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一個人,然後通過它可以

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只會而且只會迅速增加

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就在未來,問題是

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人形人工智能機器人不會是什麼

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能夠在某一點上,他們可以

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他們可以自己開採正確的礦物

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他們可以建立自己的工廠

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他們可以修復自己的身體

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新形式正確和更好的機器人在

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未來它有點令人難以置信

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感覺這一切都與我有關

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思考正確的方法,但也有希望

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如果它在正確的手中,如果它是

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用得很好,所以另一個大

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問號是時間特斯拉什麼時候

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能夠製造出真正可用的人形機器人

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人工智能機器人所以這一切什麼時候開始

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特斯拉能以多快的速度提高他們的

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人形機器人到正確的點

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你實際上可以變得像

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人類,這就是為什麼 Elon 2029 敏捷

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評論真的很重要,因為

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這表明埃隆正在迅速

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人工智能的進步

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也有機器人技術,它表明

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實際上,埃隆非常看好

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特斯拉的前景,實際上不僅僅是

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解決 ai 但實際上是用特斯拉的

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人形機器人我認為有一個

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我們要去的信念的分歧

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在未來幾年更清楚地看到最

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人們不會相信快速的進步

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和開發特斯拉的人形機器人

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機器人太令人難以置信了

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大多數人我認為這種分歧

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信仰意味著會有更多的人

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誰實際上認為它即將到來

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會有更多的人認為

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只有 50 100 年,否則永遠不會

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來吧,我認為這種分歧

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信念實際上是呈現一些

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機會很好所以總的來說我認為

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機器人發展很快我想

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在這裡舉一個敏捷機器人的例子

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他們位於

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俄勒岡,他們有一個機器人叫

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數字所以這裡是他們的主頁

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digit 是一個工作機器人,他們仍然

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有點開發它,他們會去

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釋放他們的第一個

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今年的版本這裡的團隊在

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你擁有的敏捷機器人技術

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可能是

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幾到幾十人,所以不是

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一家大公司,但他們正在做

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實際上是一些非常有趣的東西

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所以這是一種版本或什麼

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他們有這個數字的工作機器人你

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看到那踩踏板

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走路揮手它有一個

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很瘦的身體

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是的,他們實際上非常

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雄心勃勃的呃計劃這個機器人所以

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他們想要

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對於他們想要移動的初始任務

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手提包和包裹是對的,所以這是

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基本上

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在他們想要的工廠工作的機器人

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正確卸載拖車,這將是一個

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巨大的我認為機器人的用例

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碼頭上有一噸貨物

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不僅是碼頭,而且

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倉庫等

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但不僅僅是卸載拖車,還有你

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實際上可以做最後一英里的交付,所以

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你基本上可以直接從

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一輛車,一輛麵包車,實際上走箱子

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到一個人的房子放下它

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它提供了一個非常棒的

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迷人的那種,嗯,是的,最初的任務

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或人形機器人的用例對

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所以根據敏捷機器人他們的

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一種模型或他們的機器人實際上是

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大約五英尺二英寸,嗯,它是

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實際上非常相似

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特斯拉人形機器人的尺寸和

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很有趣 體重 45

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公斤 最大速度 1.5 米每秒

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您的輕型運行時間為 3

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小時和 1.5 的重載運行時間

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小時也可以步行或

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移動性,您可以向後前進

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並排 轉身 蹲伏

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上下傾斜穿過

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非結構化領土呃地形

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草岩石和遏制其他能力

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是在感知到一個人時暫停還是

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在它的路徑上的障礙和導航

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它可以蹲下和蹲下它可以向上旋轉

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身體凝視和看不同

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它使用手臂和手的方向和

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腳在碰撞時保持平衡現在這是

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非常酷的拾取和放置能力

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不同大小的物體和

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重量在路緣石上上下起伏,所以

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他們已經籌集了 150 個敏捷機器人

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上個月 4 10 萬美元

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22

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他們從 dc vc 提出來

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全球遊樂場也是亞馬遜工業

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創新基金作為投資者加入

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這是他們的數字工作機器人的視頻

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在行動,嗯,這很有趣

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是的,所以你看到我們正在移動盒子

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有點像在倉庫裡

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將箱子裝載到拖車的右側

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取出產品

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從垃圾箱

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將垃圾箱放在不同的地方

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在這裡裝卡車

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實際上佔用了盒子

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嗯,是的,實際上非常令人印象深刻的東西

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通過敏捷機器人在這裡

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好吧,所以我認為有一些巨大的

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這裡發生的事情的後果

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特斯拉正在招募世界上最好的

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機器人專家,他們有他們的

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特斯拉的精華選擇

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已經擁有最好的人工智能團隊之一

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在那裡,我想我們會看到

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進步比其他任何人都快得多

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現在世界上的機器人團隊

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其次,我們可能會看到

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開發最偉大的產品

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人類歷史是的,它有很多

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危險和風險,所以希望他們會

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是正確的監管,它將是

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正確的公司將

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管理這項技術以實際提供幫助

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人們不要傷害寫的更大

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當你陪伴或

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人們通過

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創新技術將會

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實現其中的一些價值

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如果不是通過收入獲得的很多價值

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和利潤以及通過市值權

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並通過股價,所以我認為這個

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成為特斯拉股票的背景

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未來十年和未來幾十年

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有趣的是elon

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說他對 2029 年的期望

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我個人認為這還為時過早

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認為這可能需要更長的時間,但是

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嘿,我認為這是自信的標誌

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和樂觀的跡象,事情是

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發展得很好

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特斯拉 ai fsd beta 以及

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特斯拉的人形機器人沒事的希望

8:17

這很有幫助,如果它有好的

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喜歡和訂閱我所有的視頻都可以

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也被發現是一個音頻播客

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尋找 dave lee 投資於你的

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最喜歡的播客播放器我也在

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twitter heyday7 好的,我們再見

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我下一個視頻中的伙計們謝謝

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