2022年5月6日 星期五

Dave Lee on Investing:股市下跌,TSLA 下跌(595 期)

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX8VdXT6A9o


 

hey it's dave so this week i'm driving

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to the grand canyon with my family in

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our rv and the stock market is

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experiencing some massive volatility as

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well as tesla and many other stocks so

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the nasdaq

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actually yesterday it spiked up to

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almost thirteen thousand dollars now

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it's down uh down to about twelve

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thousand three hundred tesla was up

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above 950 and now it's back down to

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about 873

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almost down 80 points in a single day

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the us 10-year treasury yield is up

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above 3 percent so we're experiencing

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massive up and downs yesterday the

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markets were up big and everyone was

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optimistic right there was a total

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change of turn a tone but today the

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markets are down big and everyone's

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talking about the whole world sinking

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into recession we've got a lot of

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so-called experts that can give i think

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an explanation for almost anything to

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match what the market is doing on that

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day so the general public

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is left confused and they're wondering

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yeah should they sell their stock before

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this recession hits i think we need to

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uncover what i call an assault and we've

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got two things going on one number one

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we've got the pundits number two we got

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the stock ticker i want to kind of deal

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with these one at a time so number one

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dependent so financial networks are

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giving people what they want to hear and

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market timing opinions are mostly for

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entertainment so you have a lot of

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people on tv and elsewhere um giving

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right their opinion on whether the

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market is going to go down or up and

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people are drawn to this type of

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entertainment right to fast money

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betting into the short term versus more

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of a long-term perspective however for a

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lot of the pundits and so-called experts

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i want to see their 10-year track record

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or at least their 10 to 20-year track

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record to see if they can significantly

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beat the index right with their stock

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picks and their market timing i wonder

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sometimes if it could all be a scam i

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know scam is probably maybe too harsh of

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a word but you have lots of people in

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suits they're trying to impress people

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and they make a lot of money off of

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management fees right that's the

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business model the more money right you

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can manage the more fees you can

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generate however most money managers are

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underperforming the market over the long

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term and i think this is one of the main

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reasons why we see a trend to passive

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low-cost index fund investing so the

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average annual returns from let's say

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2011 to 2020 if you compare the s p 500

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index with an average hedge fund you'll

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see that the s p index outperforms right

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and average hedge funds almost every

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year and by a significant amount look at

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2020 it was 18 versus 10 for the hedge

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fund in 2019 it was s p 531

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to the average hedge fund of 10

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now in 2007 warren buffett made a big

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point and he made a 1 million dollar bet

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with a hedge fund manager from protege

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partners that the s p 500 would perform

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better than hand-picked selection of

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hedge funds over a 10-year period

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and yeah his

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warren buffett handily won this bet and

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if you look at this the s p 500

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outperformed right the hand-picked hedge

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funds by a significant amount now we

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have a lot of people right on media

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talking about selling

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with this gloomy news and the gloomy

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forecasts economically i think it's

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possible that some people can sell at

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the right time and they can buy back in

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the right time but i think generally

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speaking it's very difficult often times

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when the news is the gloomiest it's

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actually priced in and a lot of times

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the amount market can re rebound even

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during a recession or even when times

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are super gloomy because the markets

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investors generally are looking forward

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a lot of people might think hey i'll

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sell during the recession or or right

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before and i'll buy back after however

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that kind of is too late right you've

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got to sell actually before right the

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general public actually gets super

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gloomy and you need to buy back at the

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lowest and the most gloomiest point and

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this can be actually very difficult to

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do for most people all right number two

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i want to address the ticker i think

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there is kind of another assault or kind

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of pressure on individual investors to

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actually sell their stock during

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stressful time so there is a hyper

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liquid nature of public stocks because

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you can sell write your stocks your

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publicly held stocks at any moment it's

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kind of like someone coming to your

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house every five minutes knocking at the

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door asking you to sell your stock and

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giving you a price for that and it

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becomes torturous over time in a sense

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every time you look at the stock tickers

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for your portfolio it's like someone is

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asking you right can i buy your stock

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from you at this price and it becomes

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something that over a period of time a

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lot of people just sell to end the

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anxiety right of the volatility and the

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ups and downs of their portfolio i think

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we need a strategy to lower the noise of

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kind of the stock ticker i think people

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generally tend to overestimate their

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short-term timing abilities and i think

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the first thing is yeah being realistic

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with our inability or lack of ability

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really to have confidence and

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consistency and timing right short

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short-term ups and downs also i think to

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understand the ticker as mostly just

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entertainment it's just something maybe

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to observe but not really as an

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opportunity to sell every time right you

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look at it also i think it's also wise

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possibly not to look at stock prices

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that often if you're not able to handle

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that and finally i think everybody needs

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a thesis so if you're invested in index

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funds let's say the s p 500 or total

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market fund i think you need a general

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thesis on why you're invested in that

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index fund why you think that index fund

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will outperform over the long term what

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are your goals and strategy how long you

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plan to hold like what is your exit

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strategy and how does it fit into a

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bigger picture if you're choosing and

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betting on individual stocks i

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personally think you need evaluation

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projection over the next two to five

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years that you make yourself sure you

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could you know borrow on other people

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but other people have different i guess

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you know projections and their views of

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the future so in addition to two to five

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years i think a five to ten years also

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a great idea too but we need to be

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realistic a lot of times future

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projections can be very wrong um and

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yeah there's acknowledgement that

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especially five to ten years down the

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road a lot can go wrong or lock and

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change further we need to understand the

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risks of our investments for example for

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picking a specific company how well do

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we know the product how well do we know

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the competition right um what are the

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risks

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of holding that company and further how

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does this fit into the overall kind of

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net assets that one has and maybe to

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one's broader investment plan so as the

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noise of the markets and the noise of

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so-called experts and pundits you know

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all shout you know buy now or sell now

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for me i kind of take a step back and i

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look at the bigger picture i look at two

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to three or four or five years even ten

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years down the road i want to have

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confidence that the companies i choose

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are going to significantly outperform

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right the market and people's

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expectations two three five years even

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ten years out in the future and that's

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largely the confidence i have to kind of

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drown out the noise of the ticker drown

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out the noise of the pundits and the

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short term news and kind of hold long

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term because i think over time the long

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term holders on the best companies in

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the world are going to probably

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outperform not just index but most hedge

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fund and hedge fund managers out there i

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hope this this has been helpful if it

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has go ahead like and subscribe all my

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as well just search for dave lee on

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player i'm also on twitter at heyday7

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i'll probably be coming to you from the

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grand canyon the next time i talk to you

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guys alright we'll see you guys later

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bye

 

和家人一起去大峽谷

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我們的房車和股市是

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經歷了一些巨大的波動

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以及特斯拉和許多其他股票

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納斯達克

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實際上昨天它飆升至

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現在將近一萬三千美元

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它下降到大約十二點

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一千三百特斯拉漲了

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高於 950 現在又回落到

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873

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單日跌近80

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美國10年期國債收益率上升

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超過 3% 所以我們正在經歷

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昨天大起大落

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市場大漲,每個人都

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樂觀的權利有一個總

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變調了,但今天

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市場大跌,每個人的

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談論整個世界沉沒

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進入衰退,我們有很多

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可以給我思考的所謂專家

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幾乎任何事情的解釋

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匹配市場在這方面所做的事情

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天所以一般大眾

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感到困惑,他們想知道

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是的,他們應該先賣掉他們的股票嗎

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這次經濟衰退來襲,我認為我們需要

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發現我所謂的攻擊,我們已經

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有兩件事發生在一個第一

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我們得到了我們得到的第二個專家

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我想交易的股票代碼

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一次用這些,所以排名第一

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依賴所以金融網絡是

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給人們他們想听的和

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市場擇時意見主要針對

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娛樂所以你有很多

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電視上和其他地方的人在給

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正確他們的意見是否

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市場將下跌或上漲,並且

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人們被這種類型所吸引

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快錢的娛樂權

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下注短期而不是更多

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但從長遠的角度來看

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許多權威人士和所謂的專家

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我想看看他們10年的記錄

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或者至少他們 10 20 年的軌跡

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記錄,看看他們是否可以顯著

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用他們的股票擊敗指數

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我想知道選秀權和他們的市場時機

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有時,如果這一切都是騙局,我

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知道騙局可能太苛刻了

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一句話,但你有很多人在

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他們試圖打動人們的西裝

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他們賺了很多錢

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管理費是這樣的

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商業模式越多錢越適合你

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可以管理更多的費用

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產生然而大多數資金經理是

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長期跑輸大市

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術語,我認為這是主要的

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我們看到被動趨勢的原因

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低成本指數基金投資因此

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假設的平均年回報率

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如果您比較 sp 500,則為 2011 年至 2020

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指數與平均對沖基金,你會

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看到 sp 指數表現出色

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和一般的對沖基金幾乎每

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年,並在很大程度上看

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2020 年是 18 10 對沖

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2019 年的基金是 sp 531

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平均對沖基金 10

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現在在 2007 年,沃倫·巴菲特大獲成功

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點,他下了100萬美元的賭注

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protege 的對沖基金經理

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sp 500 將執行的合作夥伴

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比手工挑選的要好

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10年期對沖基金

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是的,他的

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沃倫·巴菲特輕而易舉地贏得了這場賭注,

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如果你看這個 sp 500

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優於精選的對沖

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大量資金現在我們

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有很多人在媒體上

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談銷售

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有了這個令人沮喪的消息和令人沮喪的

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經濟上的預測,我認為是

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可能有些人可以賣

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合適的時間,他們可以回購

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正確的時間,但我認為一般

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說起來經常很困難

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當新聞最悲觀的時候

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實際定價和很多次

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數量市場甚至可以重新反彈

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在經濟衰退期間,甚至有時

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超級悲觀,因為市場

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投資者普遍期待

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很多人可能會認為,嘿,我會

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在經濟衰退期間出售或或對

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之前和之後我會買回來

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那種為時已晚的權利,你已經

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實際上必須在正確之前出售

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公眾實際上變得超級

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陰沉的,你需要買回來

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最低和最陰暗的點和

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這實際上很難

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為大多數人做第二件事

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我想解決我認為的股票行情

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有另一種攻擊或一種

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個人投資者面臨壓力

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實際上在期間出售他們的股票

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壓力大的時候,所以有一個超

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公共股票的流動性,因為

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你可以賣 寫你的股票

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隨時公開持有的股票

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有點像有人來找你

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房子每五分鐘敲一次

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門要求你賣掉你的股票和

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給你一個價格

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在某種意義上隨著時間的推移變得痛苦

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每次看股票行情

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對於您的投資組合,就像某人一樣

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問你對不對 我可以買你的股票嗎

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以這個價格從你那裡得到

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在一段時間內

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很多人只是賣掉結束

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波動性的焦慮權和

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我認為他們的投資組合的起伏

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我們需要一個策略來降低噪音

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我認為人們的股票行情

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通常傾向於高估自己的

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短期計時能力,我認為

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第一件事是現實的

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我們的無能或缺乏能力

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真的有信心和

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一致性和時機很短

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短期的起伏我也覺得

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了解股票代碼主要是

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娛樂 它只是一些東西

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觀察但不是真正作為

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每次都賣給你的機會

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看看它我也認為它是明智的

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可能不看股價

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如果你無法處理,那通常是

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最後我認為每個人都需要

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一篇論文,所以如果你投資於指數

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資金讓我們說 sp 500 或總計

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市場基金我認為你需要一個將軍

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關於你為什麼投資的論文

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指數基金 為什麼你認為指數基金

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從長遠來看會跑贏什麼

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你的目標和策略是多久你

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計劃持有就像你的出口是什麼

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戰略以及它如何適應

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如果您選擇和

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押注個股 i

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個人認為需要評價

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未來兩到五年的預測

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多年,你讓自己確定你

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你知道向別人借錢嗎

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但我猜其他人有不同

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你知道預測和他們的看法

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未來如此除了二至五

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我想也是五到十年

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一個好主意,但我們需要

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現實很多次未來

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預測可能是非常錯誤的

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是的,有人承認

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尤其是五到十年後

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很多路都可能出錯或鎖死

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進一步改變我們需要了解

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我們投資的風險,例如

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挑選一家具體的公司做得如何

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我們了解產品 我們對產品的了解程度

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競爭權嗯是什麼

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風險

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持有該公司以及進一步如何

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這是否適合整體類型

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擁有並且可能擁有的淨資產

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一個人更廣泛的投資計劃,以便

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市場的噪音和市場的噪音

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你知道的所謂的專家和專家

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都喊你知道現在買還是賣

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對我來說,我有點退後一步,我

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看大圖 我看兩個

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到三四年甚至五年甚至十年

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多年以後我想擁有

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對我選擇的公司有信心

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將顯著跑贏大盤

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正確的市場和人民

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期待二三五年甚至

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十年後的未來

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很大程度上是我必須要有的信心

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淹沒股票行情的噪音

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消除權威人士的噪音和

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短期新聞和持有多​​

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術語,因為我認為隨著時間的推移

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最佳公司的長期持有人

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世界可能會

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不僅跑贏指數,而且跑贏大多數對沖

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基金和對沖基金經理在那裡我

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希望這對您有所幫助

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已經繼續喜歡並訂閱我所有的

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視頻可以作為音頻播客找到

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也只需搜索 dave lee on

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投資您最喜歡的播客

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玩家我也在全盛時期的推特上

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我可能會從

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大峽谷下次我和你說話時

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伙計們,我們稍後再見

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再見

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